# Instant Crash in Samplitude X3 \[solved\]

**URL:** <https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86>\
**Category:** EXC!TE SNARE DRUM\
**Created:** [July 30, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86 "2021-07-30T16:13:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![BuzzAudrey](https://discourse.chair.audio/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BuzzAudrey](https://discourse.chair.audio/u/BuzzAudrey)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86/1 "2021-07-30T16:13:31Z")

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Hey there,

I get this:

 ![error](https://discourse.chair.audio/uploads/default/original/1X/e0291193f52d952f679530ccb0db46911829913c.png)

btw., it would be awesome if Exc!te could process an audio channel (instead of Midi Input) 😉

Best regards!

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**Author:** ![Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/user_avatar/discourse.chair.audio/max/32/12_2.png) [@Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/u/Max)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86/2 "2021-07-31T22:29:23Z")

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Hi BuzzAudrey, thanks for testing. We did not run the plugin in Samplitude yet. I’m going to try this with a Samplitude X6 trial. Can you try either Reaper, Ableton Live or Bitwig and confirm that it’s working there?

> btw., it would be awesome if Exc!te could process an audio channel (instead of Midi Input)

That’s exactly that the PRO version is all about. Have you watched the video?

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**Author:** ![Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/user_avatar/discourse.chair.audio/max/32/12_2.png) [@Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/u/Max)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 9:47am UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86/3 "2021-08-01T09:47:06Z")

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Hi BuzzAudrey,

I have downloaded Samplitude X6 from Magix and I was able to replicate the issue.

 ![image](https://discourse.chair.audio/uploads/default/original/1X/d96ae00269e3654288929a05787fa0fdec1ac1bc.png)

After restarting Samplitude, it told me an update was available with fixes, so I applied the update. Now I am running Samplitude `17.0.2.21179 (DC2) - Unicode`.

 ![image](https://discourse.chair.audio/uploads/default/original/1X/48a43ed0ebe233be652f1f8d9d02a8470451e9cd.png)

When I open the plugin from the FX section of a MIDI track it works, when opening it in the FX section of an audio track it crashes.  
It cuts off the graphics weirdly on the right side should be about 20 pixels more space.

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**Author:** ![BuzzAudrey](https://discourse.chair.audio/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BuzzAudrey](https://discourse.chair.audio/u/BuzzAudrey)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86/4 "2021-08-01T09:52:35Z")

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Hi! It works in Reaper right away. Because of course it does\*!

(\*I actually plan on migrating to Reaper at one point, but I still do all my work in Samplitude. I stopped updating after X3 since some plug-ins which are crucial for my workflow don’t work at all in X4. And X5. Haven’t tested X6, but I’m really fed up with Magix.)

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**Author:** ![Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/user_avatar/discourse.chair.audio/max/32/12_2.png) [@Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/u/Max)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86/5 "2021-08-04T08:51:34Z")

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It seems that you can even crash Samplitude with the Steinberg example plugins like `AGain` (not directly on loading though)

> **[VSTSDK 3.6.12 AGain Crashes Samplitude Pro X3 Suite](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vstsdk-3-6-12-again-crashes-samplitude-pro-x3-suite/201843)**
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> Hi all, This post is related to Will Pirkle’s topic about the behavior of AGain here: This topic is intended to cover the behavior of various hosts with AGain from VSTSDK 3.6.12, in particular my findings for hosts other than those mentioned...

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**Author:** ![Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/user_avatar/discourse.chair.audio/max/32/12_2.png) [@Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/u/Max)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86/6 "2021-08-22T06:17:41Z")

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Part of the issue might be that the Samplitude installer is installing an ancient VCRuntime: from 2005! 😲

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**Author:** ![Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/user_avatar/discourse.chair.audio/max/32/12_2.png) [@Max](https://discourse.chair.audio/u/Max)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.chair.audio/t/instant-crash-in-samplitude-x3-solved/86/7 "2021-08-24T13:28:50Z")

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Good news! We released an update and Samplitude is no longer crashing. However, the audio sidechain for instruments is not supported by Samplitude, the VST3 support in Samplitude unfortunately is incomplete.

> **[Signal Sidechains in VST3i: Not all hosts support it?](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/signal-sidechains-in-vst3i-not-all-hosts-support-it/736622)**
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> It seems that not all plugin hosts allow VST3i to have an audio sidechain input. Cubase, Bitwig, Ableton Live, Reaper, Ardour, PlogueBidule, even Logic (with the AU wrapper) do allow VST3 instruments to accept signal sidechains, but MagiX...